This e-mail was sent to my employer and supervisor at my place of emplyment.
After all the back and forth, and people saying no hard feelings.
I am sooo convinced that ACEVAC or ROGERONE sent this out...
is this cool with everybody in here?

I am not allowed to respond to my attackers...and when I do...
they try to get me fired.

My mother is supporting the household, now that my dad is ill,
and now MY job is in jeopardy, all becasuse some COWARD who cannot stand the attention that my words and music get, wants to get dirty.

RAY TAMARA I need an apology for this...or at the very least an explanation.
I never got a PM from you, or an email, and this at best a ridiculous action to have been taken.
The OFFENDER as well described themselves as a part of your team.
I WANT ANSWERS!!

If I do NOT receive one...I will take MY OWN action.








---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Mina Oh" <mina_oh_4@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 00:13:33 -0400

Dear Sir or Madam,

I am a moderator on a community internet message board:

Just fill wanted to keep you aware of what NathanThomas (Johnny Neumatic,
Agent N) does all day:

http://www.thecrusade.net/forums/index.php...topic=6150&st=0

http://www.thecrusade.net/forums/index.php...?showtopic=6161


or you can go here to see he's been wasting your valuable time instead of
working:

http://www.thecrusade.net/forums/index.php...sult_type=posts

Nathan is violent and verbally abusive and as you have read already he's not
mentally stable.
He has been constantly emailing me death threats, and random rants.
He has insulted the site's founder to the point that he wants to persue
Nathan legally.

Please keep him occupied with work during the day so he doesn't cause
trouble in the internet community (the crusade) we have spent 3 years trying
to build.

We would like to help him and his music career, but his behavior makes it
impossible.

This is the first time I have ever gone this far, I understand he is young
but his vulgar behavior will not be accepted.

Thank you.

Best regards,
Mina

Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaa!! This is getting SERIOUS!!

You know what faggot I aint send shit too ya lil punk ass job. Nigga you aint gonna do shit to nada, you know where we be and don't want no part of that

I hope ya lil bitch ass does get fired

Play wit fire and you get burt

Somebody really overstepped their bounderies.

I believe yesterday you was talking all that shit bout how you and your boss was sooooo(excuse the faggo jargon) cool. You put yourself in the position that you are in.....I hope those ramen noodles taste good


Contact you for what??????Nigga I ain't the one blowing up my PM box

Internet thugs all need hugs

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction and every body makes mistake, bruh. Somebody hated on you man let it go Forgive,Nate.
Only you can up root the seed that you planted, vengance is the Lords,bruh.

you forgot employed

Wow!
I think that was a little too much.

We traded barbs but I would never disable someone from making a living.

You did provoke, but I'm sorry about your job young man.

If you need something clerical in the interim while you find something else, then hit me up.

this is out of the line. I can't believe that someone posted somebody's job info, and is trying to ruin this man's life? besides the arguments and snapping on one another, how has agent_N ruined or threatened your career on this site? damn, how can one person drive someone to do all this? go off with the snaps but leave people's lives outside this site alone.

I understand folks can hide behind cyber space and not have worries about physical violence, but this right here is going to end up with people getting hurt. doesn't matter who it is.

to the member that did this. please be a man and go an step to dude in real life and knuckle up, and let us have a place to do business.

peace, well maybe not

Yo I think that is messed up. This is a messageboard. And nothing should exceed postings on the board.

Whoever did that is wrong.

They have crossed the line

This is so pathetic. The entire situation shows how assinine many individuals can be when they are uninformed and uneducated in the ability to articulate their views and opinions without taking shit personally. Now if someone has used their computer at their job to submit thoughts, comments, opinions, and viewpoints then it is up to the employer to discover that their equipment is being used against company policy, if in fact it is the company policy.

THE SON OF A BITCH WHO SENT THE LETTER TO YOUR PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT HAS OBVIOUSLY REVEALED THEMSELVES BY THEIR RESPONSE AS SHAKESPERE ONCE WROTE "THOU PROTESTH TO MUCH"

Your best response is to Man Up to your employer and apologize profusely. Humble pie when you trying to keep the lights on taste sweet once it goes down. Also, agree to not use their company equipment for personal usage during working hours unless business related. Explain that while it may have happened during working hours, you still maintained your ability to complete all tasks as well not leaking any company confidential information - which would be cause for firing. However, DO NOT LET THIS SON OF A BITCH HAVE POWER OVER YOUR DESTINY OR YOUR LIVELY HOOD.

YOU MAY HAVE BEEN WRONG ON YOUR PART ON WHAT YOU HAVE SAID ON CERTAIN TOPICS BUT FOR SOMEONE TO BE SO ARROGANT AND EGOTISTICAL TO THINK THEY CAN DO SOMETHING SO FOUL, THEN THEY MUST BE STOPPED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. FRANKLY, THERE ARE WAYS TO FIND OUT WHO MAY HAVE SENT IT, JUST LIKE TEXT MESSAGES CAN BE TRACED SO CAN EMAILS....WHAT A FUCKING COWARD

This is very scary. This makes me not ever want to post to a message board again.

I know that things are out of control but I hope that you don't loose your job. Everyone needs to be able to make a living. Please don't attack me but maybe you should reconsider your participation. I would never want to be anyplace that I'm not wanted especially if it results in people trying to make me lose my job.

I'm speechless.
That's absolutely the lowest... and I couldn't have imagined something like this actually taking place.

humble pie and keep your job, Nate. come clean and do what you gotta.

smchadwic you make sense... & can we let this whole thing die already, 4 days is enough

This shit has gotten petty and ridiculous. I stayed out of the whole mess though I read some of the threads. But, seriously, whoever sent that letter is just foul. That's uncalled for.

wow...i have nothing positive to say.

except that i hope some valuable lessons were learned thru all this.

dang...

^^^^^^
co-sign. I have stayed in the clear, because I don't have any beef with anyone on this board and don't plan to, because it's not that serious.

Whomever is responsible, that was a low move, and just proves that J Nue got under your skin and you played the punk role. If that was the case, you should have brushed the dirt off your shoulders.

Oh well, fall back. Lets get back to normal.

The HATER who did this IS the same one who looked up my personal info (outside of crusade) and posted it all over the board!!

Your hate is sooo strong I THINK YOUR THE ONE WHO IS UNSTABLE!
...that's really some sick sh*t.....and The proof is in the pussy!!

I can see dude doin some punk sh*t like that but Immo let YO B*TCH A** KNOW fuck wit my sh*t on another level (outside of crusade) and YOU WILL get burned

Kacy you shit was posted on the crusade by you, click on your profile ........so shut it up

As for this, if you can prove remotely that I had anything to do with this email you can ban me fo life.....

Sad part is I know who did it, they sent various emails to our site , Ray if you need the ISP holla.....

WOW..Johnny Neu..Hold your head dawg!...Damn whoever did that...that's just going toooooooooo far..You taken bread from a brotha's mouth?..That's his job..CRAZY..Internet or not..Mess with my job..It becomes REAL..Were physical damage has to take place..WOW..all i can say is WOW!..The crusade is the ISH still tho..even with the drama..This website always one of the first if not the first I check everytime I turn a computer on..And I put so much of my peoples on to this site..So like money said in an earlier post..BRUSH THE DIRT OF YA'LL SHOULDERS..and LET US KEEP THIS SITE POPPIN!

I thought that the "Crusade Awards" would have helped spark a more peaceful climate on the boards. This has gotten crazy!

Dammit Man!!!!
This is like a real live soap opera. For gods sakes, can the powers that be handle this behind the scenes so we "innocent bystanders" can get back to regularly scheduled programming !!!!! I know we are ALL guilty of entertaining this fiasco at some point or another but the buck has to STOP!!!!

Whoever did this is completely foul. How could that person go to lengths of trying to ruin another persons life??

Johnny, talk to your boss and if need be get your resume updated. If you need help, let me know.

Whoever did that is a bitch!!!!

Damn man... this shit is out of hand!

Johnny I hope that your boss sees the immaturity in the situation and lets it rest! It really should be a non-issue for you if your boss has an ounce of sense but I hope your work performance has been up to par...if it has this should not affect you at all!

Although I'm a newbie...I am an adult and I'm entitled to my opinion Johnny and the truth of the matter is you can not act like a child and expect others not to retaliate at your level (and below). I feel you've gotten a little ridiculous w/the childish name calling and the constant belittling of yourself and other across this board and I hope this forces you to calm down a bit and see your actions have hurt only you with this exhausting tirade your putting the board through.....

I wish you the best bro and I don't know you from a whole in the wall but your portraying yourself as a maniac and now you are expecting the same people who you've offended constantly to feel sympathetic of your situation and truth be told everyone that you've degraded on the board that has in turn come to this thread and posted in your favor shows a level of maturity I'm not sure you possess.

I hope that the next time you change your screen name you change your approach because it should be crystal clear to you now that this one's not working for you!

Good luck w/ your work situation!

* That *

Ladies and gents is about the craziest thing I have ever seen online. As well as the wrongest. J, I hope you get to keep your job. For real and to whoever did it I hope you can see that you may have failed twice. If dude keeps his job, that mission fell on deaf ears and you have now done the one thing here that you
should never do for a so-called enemy: create sympathy. May I suggest reading the book The Art Of War? Regardles, this shit has gotten way out-of-hand and honestly is pretty disgusting.

And the name they chose to hide behind?

Don't start none, won't be none. The net the perfect place for people to push limits.

Kacy, dont use this man's sorrow , to garner sympathy ..... I don't have to google shit. My ties run deep in the chi, in fact I know many people you know, your just too caught up to realize this. The cat that design's those kicks is a Chicago staple. Thats why I find your dramatics amusing, since the start of your beef you claimed I was a Chi Town hater, which in real life proves false ....im just a idiot hater Thats NO way for public officials to act

but as I stated before I accept you as my own personal hater

Moving On

Ace

I think it would be best if Ray came out and notified everyone to the status of this.

This is fun makes people apprehensive about staying here. Myself included.

WILL YA'LL JUST FIGHT ALREADY. WHATS UP WITH ALL THE CYBER THUG ISH. KEEP IT GANGSTA.

THE FUNNY PART IS PROBABLY EVERYONE ON HERE HAS SOME FORM OF HIGHER EDUCATION AND YA'LL STOOP TO ACKIN REAL IGNANT. EITHER SET UP A DAT FIGHT AND WEBCAST IT OR LET IT GO.

YOU NEGRAZ ARE FUNNY. AND SOME OF YA'LL NEED ONE OF THOSE CUDDLE PARTIES

FOR THE RECORD WHOEVER PLAYED JOHNNY DEFINITELY IS PUSSSSSSSS

Gamma.....
Totally agreed... who thought huh
As I just stated on another post(About this subject)... What happened to the days when a couple of foul posts would get you kicked out.. ... Is it really that deep to mess with someone's bread and butter....

Who here can cast the first stone... We can't....If you could...ya would not be walking this earth....

damn.....I am on the outside looking in.... but c'mon people.....GET OVER YA SELF!!....

Ace,Roger,Johnny...... It's a new day..... Live...

Ok, people are going to stop saying my name. Again I have proof that it was not I. To the female that did it tho I suggest you clear this up, or im posting the ISP and all the other shit that you sent to our site. The ISP aint even a eastcost time zone

I promised myself not to chime in here, and sent out a PM to TC members, but ill just come straight up now.

A LOT of you here are hypocrites and full of shit. Im not name calling for the sake of it, because thats simply not how I roll.

I find it amazing how 1 person has the ability to manipulate and dictate the vibe of an entire message board. Thats my friends - is power.

Its amazing how many of you trashed the very same person your expressing sympathy for today. What even more amazing is, while some of you have never met this individual outside of a email or Personal Meassage note, many are quick to either take sides, or believe this fiasco.

Im not saying this incident is false, nor am i saying its true.

What I am saying is for so many adults, and 'so called industy heads' in here claiming to want to make moves, summa yall never left the 1st grade playground. Manipulated like the new kid on the block.

This is the internet..anyone can hide behind a keyboard. Real life beef gets delt with in real life, and handled like adults. Not on a message board.

Continue on yall...i'll retreat back to The Wire.,

As I have previously stated here, thecrusade is a family. In a family you are gonna have fights. You may not even like someone in the family. But you NEVER and I mean NEVER let anyone on the outside front on family and you NEVER bring family business outside. This is a big-time violation. For the record, I find this act to be COMPLETELY DEPLORABLE.

Now my battles with J-Neu have been well documented. I realize that perhaps at times I took pot shots at him that were uncalled for and for that I am willing to accept my culpability. For instance a few days ago, all in fun I posted Beefs and Battles, mainly to give a sideways compliment to Akboogie and WIN for, what I heard are, superb dancing skills. I also took the opportunity to poke fun at J-Neu's name change and the rest is history. I thought then and still do feel that he may have overreacted to my jokes. I, nonetheless, realize now that he may not have appreciated my humor. But that's neither here nor there.

The bottom line is that we have to find a way to get our disagreements out and over without impeding what this site is truly about, and that's building bridges to help each of us realize our dreams. Thecrusade is a great place and it is on all of us to uphold the standards set here and to push this site though to reaching its potential.

That's what's up? Voice your personal opinion and you get burned? I just don't understand what his job life has to do wit the cruasade! Nothing! Who dare go that low. He wasn't the only one voicing his opinion. Does that mean that my job, or agent is going 2 get an email 2morrow saying some bullshit. This is the net whoever did that shit is crackers as hell

Does anyone remember when some use 2 argue and still b cool? Or when J would speak of Beyonce so much. i remember when peeps would argue and still be cool It was fun. That's what I remember. I ain't tryna sound like a damn Leave it to beaver movie but shit it can't b like this.

I believe it went down just as Nate says it did. I'll stand by that. I have my reasons... but let's not even take this in a whether or not it's true direction. This thing was fading until that was thrown in the mix.

with all due respect, osk.. i think it would have been better left in the PM's you sent. your post could be perceved as a veiled shot at nate. i don't think you mean it that way, nor do I want beef with you... but that's the way it could be read.

this has ended horribly... move on and learn form the past.

If this is true, this is a low life move! This is totally disgusting!! Another example of "Black people acting like crabs in a barrell."